It would seem that the 1 litre suzi engine is more powerfull than the 1 litre cb70.
93Kw vs 78Kw
Mmmm....
K10a
It would want to be more powerful, having VVT and a more efficient all-alloy configuration. $2600 ay?
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WHY?fritz wrote:I'd be put off for sure if it was vvt.
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Just the extra complexity if anything ever went wrong.
Plus the fact that I'd be looking at running it with a microtec or something. - Not too sure if they are able to control the vtec? Or is the variable cam timing a mechanical thing?
Plus the fact that I'd be looking at running it with a microtec or something. - Not too sure if they are able to control the vtec? Or is the variable cam timing a mechanical thing?
It is a mechanical VVT AFAIK. Much the same as the Ignis.
You could run a microtech or haltec (etc), it would just be a matter of setting the map to allow for the timing change. VVT does not affect lift, only the cam timing is altered and therefore requires the ignition to change in accordance.
The only variable system that adjusts lift is Honda's VTEC LEV which not only changes valve timing, but duration and lift as well. But that is a whole other can of worms.
The biggest concievable problem with fitting the K10A would be working out if the 4cylinders & box would actually fit in the MB engine bay.
You could run a microtech or haltec (etc), it would just be a matter of setting the map to allow for the timing change. VVT does not affect lift, only the cam timing is altered and therefore requires the ignition to change in accordance.
The only variable system that adjusts lift is Honda's VTEC LEV which not only changes valve timing, but duration and lift as well. But that is a whole other can of worms.
The biggest concievable problem with fitting the K10A would be working out if the 4cylinders & box would actually fit in the MB engine bay.
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I seem to remember reading something to the contrary of that in an article about the late-model Toyota Celicas when they first release. Because of the patents lodge by companies like Honda for their in-house variable valve timing mechanisms, Toyota were forced to design a completely original system for their own use. However, they still managed to come up with something that provides Variable Valve Timing & Lift - otherwise is wouldn't be VVTL-i, would it?Brayden wrote:The only variable system that adjusts lift is Honda's VTEC LEV which not only changes valve timing, but duration and lift as well.
Click Here to read all about how Toyota VVTL-i Variable Valve Timing & Lift - Intelligent works.
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Or more generally, here http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft6.htm
Just found this again. It mentions that it is vvt, but only makes 74kw (less than cb70). I'd say it wouldn't vibrate quite as bed though being a 4cyl. http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2131/article.html
Just found this again. It mentions that it is vvt, but only makes 74kw (less than cb70). I'd say it wouldn't vibrate quite as bed though being a 4cyl. http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2131/article.html
Sorry Fritz... I'm not quite the Google-whore that I used to be...fritz wrote:Or more generally, here http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft6.htm
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Yes, of course... But my link wasn't good enough for you! *pout* 
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A 3 cylinder shouldn't vibrate either, as the crank offset for each piston is 120 degrees. (x3 = 360) I mean naturally the 4 cylinder would be smoother owing to an extra combustion per cycle, but the only real noticeable difference in that respect (besides power obviously) would be at idle.fritz wrote:I'd say it wouldn't vibrate quite as bed though being a 4cyl.
If your current engine vibrates there would have to be something askew IMO!
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!I've been working with 3-cyl cars and motorcycles since I was 12 and I've found them to be smoother-revving much nicer sounding than your garden variety 4-pot.
Especially in the case of motorcycles.
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